Jay  Sherwood, author of several books about Frank Swannell's and other survey crews expeditions to map BC's landbase in the first thirty years of the last century, talks to Sheila about his latest venture: Ootsa Lake Odyssey: George and Else Seel - A Pioneer Life on the Headwaters of the Nechako Watershed. Sheila also plays a couple of Francois Lake musician, Rachelle van Zanten's tunes.